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Evangelical scientists refute gravity with new theory
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Evangelical scientists refute gravity with new "Intelligent Falling" theory

KANSAS CITY, KS—As the debate over the teaching of evolution in public schools continues, a new controversy over the science curriculum arose Monday in this embattled Midwestern state. Scientists from the Evangelical Center For Faith-Based Reasoning are now asserting that the long-held "theory of gravity" is flawed, and they have responded to it with a new theory of Intelligent Falling.


      
Above: Rev. Gabriel Burdett (left) explains Intelligent Falling.   


"Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational force, but because a higher intelligence, 'God' if you will, is pushing them down," said Gabriel Burdett, who holds degrees in education, applied Scripture, and physics from Oral Roberts University.

Burdett added: "Gravity—which is taught to our children as a law—is founded on great gaps in understanding. The laws predict the mutual force between all bodies of mass, but they cannot explain that force. Isaac Newton himself said, 'I suspect that my theories may all depend upon a force for which philosophers have searched all of nature in vain.' Of course, he is alluding to a higher power."

Founded in 1987, the ECFR is the world's leading institution of evangelical physics, a branch of physics based on literal interpretation of the Bible.

According to the ECFR paper published simultaneously this week in the International Journal Of Science and the adolescent magazine God's Word For Teens!, there are many phenomena that cannot be explained by secular gravity alone, including such mysteries as how angels fly, how Jesus ascended into Heaven, and how Satan fell when cast out of Paradise.

The ECFR, in conjunction with the Christian Coalition and other Christian conservative action groups, is calling for public-school curriculums to give equal time to the Intelligent Falling theory. They insist they are not asking that the theory of gravity be banned from schools, but only that students be offered both sides of the issue "so they can make an informed decision."

"We just want the best possible education for Kansas' kids," Burdett said.

Proponents of Intelligent Falling assert that the different theories used by secular physicists to explain gravity are not internally consistent. Even critics of Intelligent Falling admit that Einstein's ideas about gravity are mathematically irreconcilable with quantum mechanics. This fact, Intelligent Falling proponents say, proves that gravity is a theory in crisis.

"Let's take a look at the evidence," said ECFR senior fellow Gregory Lunsden."In Matthew 15:14, Jesus says, 'And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.' He says nothing about some gravity making them fall—just that they will fall. Then, in Job 5:7, we read, 'But mankind is born to trouble, as surely as sparks fly upwards.' If gravity is pulling everything down, why do the sparks fly upwards with great surety? This clearly indicates that a conscious intelligence governs all falling."

Critics of Intelligent Falling point out that gravity is a provable law based on empirical observations of natural phenomena. Evangelical physicists, however, insist that there is no conflict between Newton's mathematics and Holy Scripture.

"Closed-minded gravitists cannot find a way to make Einstein's general relativity match up with the subatomic quantum world," said Dr. Ellen Carson, a leading Intelligent Falling expert known for her work with the Kansan Youth Ministry. "They've been trying to do it for the better part of a century now, and despite all their empirical observation and carefully compiled data, they still don't know how."

"Traditional scientists admit that they cannot explain how gravitation is supposed to work," Carson said. "What the gravity-agenda scientists need to realize is that 'gravity waves' and 'gravitons' are just secular words for 'God can do whatever He wants.'"

Some evangelical physicists propose that Intelligent Falling provides an elegant solution to the central problem of modern physics.

"Anti-falling physicists have been theorizing for decades about the 'electromagnetic force,' the 'weak nuclear force,' the 'strong nuclear force,' and so-called 'force of gravity,'" Burdett said. "And they tilt their findings toward trying to unite them into one force. But readers of the Bible have already known for millennia what this one, unified force is: His name is Jesus."


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I've being saying that all along! Orthodox gravitationism is flawed!!

I think that evangelical physics is going to explain Noah's Flood too! Also the young age of the Earth.

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Re.: Evangelical scientists refute gravity with new theory
« Resposta #1 Online: 17 de Agosto de 2005, 17:08:01 »
wait.. ehh, is that serious?
"Notai, vós homens de ação orgulhosos, não sois senão os instrumentos inconscientes dos homens de pensamento, que na quietude humilde traçaram freqüentemente vossos planos de ação mais definidos." heinrich heine

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Re.: Evangelical scientists refute gravity with new theory
« Resposta #2 Online: 17 de Agosto de 2005, 18:57:54 »
Nah. Literalists use stick with real scientific stuff as long as it doesn't implies that they're related with monkeys, that they're not specially created.

 :D

note the equation on the slide:
dx / dt = 1 Cor. 1:10

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Evangelical scientists refute gravity with new theory
« Resposta #3 Online: 21 de Agosto de 2005, 00:43:19 »
Somebody else had the same idea, with a slightly different name:

Intelligent Attraction :smartass:  

And yes, it is a satire.
"Galileo was more perceptive than his prosecutors" - Pope John Paul II, 1992

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Re.: Evangelical scientists refute gravity with new theory
« Resposta #4 Online: 21 de Agosto de 2005, 13:31:47 »
Intelligent Attraction?  :o

:histeria:

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Re:Evangelical scientists refute gravity with new theory
« Resposta #5 Online: 30 de Abril de 2018, 19:32:32 »
"Faith-based reasoning" is an oxymoron.
And they keep adding "intelligent" in the names of their ad hoc hypothesis, of course alluding to a god.
For me this is more akin to compensate for their lack of intelligence.
I bet I'll live to see someone adds "intelligent" in a theory defending flat earth.
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Re:Evangelical scientists refute gravity with new theory
« Resposta #6 Online: 15 de Maio de 2018, 01:37:15 »
"Faith-based reasoning" is an oxymoron.
And they keep adding "intelligent" in the names of their ad hoc hypothesis, of course alluding to a god.
For me this is more akin to compensate for their lack of intelligence.
I bet I'll live to see someone adds "intelligent" in a theory defending flat earth.

Only using a time machine. Homer, Democritus and Anaxagoras believed the earth was flat and we cannot disagree that there was intelligence in their thoughts considering the context of science at their time neither affirm that they were doing pseudoscience.

If you think about the definition of "intelligence" we also cannot deny that flat earthers of our time have good capacity for a illogical logic, irracional understanding and creative problem solving to find answers to all sorts of difficult questions. That's what we could call bad intelligence.

I think that the point here isn't intelligence at all but the meaning of  the word "believe" and to recognize that there is a difference between "believing in" and "believing that". “Seeing is believing” is one kind of “believing that.” In contrast, we “believe in” something when there’s no evidence and the belief isn’t falsifiable. I recommend you to follow this link for more information.

Flat Earthers often talk in terms of  "believing in", like a religious faith, but with denialism. Flat Earthers often see themselves applying the philosophical approach of skepticism but can't understand that scientific skepticism and denialism aren’t the same thing at all.

On the other hand, "believing that" treat perception as reality and the politically correct democratization of opinion, unfortunately, put the personal belief placed on a equal footing with expertise.
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