Tópico: Governo americano afirma que tem o direito de sequestrar estrangeiros.

[Dr. Manhattan]

Para quem não sabe inglês, o título já diz tudo. Detalhes: eles se dão o direito de sequestrar cidadãos estrangeiros em seu próprio país de origem. Mais: isso não se refere apenas aos suspeitos de terrorismo, mas sim a qualquer indivíduo acusado de um crime cometido nos EUA.

US says it has right to kidnap British citizens
David Leppard

AMERICA has told Britain that it can “kidnap” British citizens if they are wanted for crimes in the United States.

A senior lawyer for the American government has told the Court of Appeal in London that kidnapping foreign citizens is permissible under American law because the US Supreme Court has sanctioned it.

The admission will alarm the British business community after the case of the so-called NatWest Three, bankers who were extradited to America on fraud charges. More than a dozen other British executives, including senior managers at British Airways and BAE Systems, are under investigation by the US authorities and could face criminal charges in America.

Until now it was commonly assumed that US law permitted kidnapping only in the “extraordinary rendition” of terrorist suspects.


The American government has for the first time made it clear in a British court that the law applies to anyone, British or otherwise, suspected of a crime by Washington.

Legal experts confirmed this weekend that America viewed extradition as just one way of getting foreign suspects back to face trial. Rendition, or kidnapping, dates back to 19th-century bounty hunting and Washington believes it is still legitimate.

The US government’s view emerged during a hearing involving Stanley Tollman, a former director of Chelsea football club and a friend of Baroness Thatcher, and his wife Beatrice.

The Tollmans, who control the Red Carnation hotel group and are resident in London, are wanted in America for bank fraud and tax evasion. They have been fighting extradition through the British courts.

During a hearing last month Lord Justice Moses, one of the Court of Appeal judges, asked Alun Jones QC, representing the US government, about its treatment of Gavin, Tollman’s nephew. Gavin Tollman was the subject of an attempted abduction during a visit to Canada in 2005.

Jones replied that it was acceptable under American law to kidnap people if they were wanted for offences in America. “The United States does have a view about procuring people to its own shores which is not shared,” he said.

He said that if a person was kidnapped by the US authorities in another country and was brought back to face charges in America, no US court could rule that the abduction was illegal and free him: “If you kidnap a person outside the United States and you bring him there, the court has no jurisdiction to refuse — it goes back to bounty hunting days in the 1860s.”

Mr Justice Ouseley, a second judge, challenged Jones to be “honest about [his] position”.

Jones replied: “That is United States law.”

He cited the case of Humberto Alvarez Machain, a suspect who was abducted by the US government at his medical office in Guadalajara, Mexico, in 1990. He was flown by Drug Enforcement Administration agents to Texas for criminal prosecution.

Although there was an extradition treaty in place between America and Mexico at the time — as there currently is between the United States and Britain — the Supreme Court ruled in 1992 that the Mexican had no legal remedy because of his abduction.

In 2005, Gavin Tollman, the head of Trafalgar Tours, a holiday company, had arrived in Toronto by plane when he was arrested by Canadian immigration authorities.

An American prosecutor, who had tried and failed to extradite him from Britain, persuaded Canadian officials to detain him. He wanted the Canadians to drive Tollman to the border to be handed over. Tollman was escorted in handcuffs from the aircraft in Toronto, taken to prison and held for 10 days.

A Canadian judge ordered his release, ruling that the US Justice Department had set a “sinister trap” and wrongly bypassed extradition rules. Tollman returned to Britain.

Legal sources said that under traditional American justice, rendition meant capturing wanted people abroad and bringing them to the United States. The term “extraordinary rendition” was coined in the 1990s for the kidnapping of terror suspects from one foreign country to another for interrogation.

There was concern this weekend from Patrick Mercer, the Tory MP, who said: “The very idea of kidnapping is repugnant to us and we must handle these cases with extreme caution and a thorough understanding of the implications in American law.”

Shami Chakrabarti, director of the human rights group Liberty, said: “This law may date back to bounty hunting days, but they should sort it out if they claim to be a civilised nation.”

The US Justice Department declined to comment.

[Thufir Hawat]

Olha eu critico o anti-americanismo exacerbado e tal... mas o governo americano (principalmente o atual) faz de tudo pra semear o ódio aos EUA.
Lamentável.

[Dbohr]

É triste ver o caminho que toma o país que inaugurou a democracia moderna, que teve um vibrante movimento de direitos civis... mas no final, se o povo americano apoiar tal coisa, é com eles. E que agüentem o rojão da reação internacional.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Eu já acho estranho quando um criminoso é preso fora do Brasil.... e o pessoal quer trazê-lo pra cá... por mim, que ficasse... um a menos para termos que pagar contas, para tentar fugir, para tentarem resgatar...

Isso aí deve ser mesmo influência do "24 horas"...

[Buckaroo Banzai]

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Já pensou... aparecem uns agentes da RIAA arrombando a porta da sua casa, atravessando vidraças , dependurados com cordas, e te gritam, "you're under arrest!"

[Dbohr]

 

Já pensou?!?

[Luis Dantas]

Lá se vai o direito internacional...

[Barata Tenno]

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Já pensou... aparecem uns agentes da RIAA arrombando a porta da sua casa, atravessando vidraças , dependurados com cordas, e te gritam, "you're under arrest!"

Freeeeeeze Motherfucker!!!!!!!! Put your hands in the head and drop your DVDs!!!!

[Spitfire]

Bom... os agentes deles, se não operarem em cooperação e respeitando as leis de outro país, podem ser presos e/ou mortos sem que nenhuma violação constituicional seja cometida. Querem fazer? Façam! Mas arquem com as consequências.... depois não adianta chorar, fazer carinha de coitadinho e fazer um filmeco em Hollywood para enaltecer o heroísmo dos abatidos... assumam uma postura de HOMEM, não de galinhas.

[Spitfire]

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Já pensou... aparecem uns agentes da RIAA arrombando a porta da sua casa, atravessando vidraças , dependurados com cordas, e te gritam, "you're under arrest!"

Freeeeeeze Motherfucker!!!!!!!! Put your hands in the head and drop your DVDs!!!!

Asta la vista, baby... 

Ps: Ah! Ampliei meu plano da NET para assistir Californication no Warner Channel.   

[Barata Tenno]

Esa série é boa Spitt?Ainda não assisti..... Vi que tem umas gostosas semi-nuas...

[Spitfire]

Eu gostei... é uma série adulta, com muito palavrão e erotismo... e o principal, um senso de humor extremamente ácido. Difícil acreditar que seja uma série norte-americana, tão puritanos sempre. Eu recomendo. 

[Oceanos]

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Já pensou... aparecem uns agentes da RIAA arrombando a porta da sua casa, atravessando vidraças , dependurados com cordas, e te gritam, "you're under arrest!"

Freeeeeeze Motherfucker!!!!!!!! Put your hands in the head and drop your DVDs!!!!

[Rodion]

Eu gostei... é uma série adulta, com muito palavrão e erotismo... e o principal, um senso de humor extremamente ácido. Difícil acreditar que seja uma série norte-americana, tão puritanos sempre. Eu recomendo. 

eu acho que a partir da metade da temporada foi piorando um pouquinho. começou muuuito bem e depois ficou uma série mediana. well, já terminei de ver a temporada inteira, é o problema com torrent.