Tópico: Efeito Mandela

[Gigaview]

Nelson Mandela morreu na prisão?

Muitos dizem que se lembram da morte dele nos anos 80,  quando ainda estava preso. Dizem que se lembram das fotos nos jornais, a cobertura do velório, conflitos nas ruas de algumas cidades e do discurso sincero de sua viúva.

Falsas memórias? Time shift?

Time shifts are perceived events in time which would seem to suggest that reality is constantly shifting and changing around. They may even point to the existence of parallel universes and other dimensions.

When a time shift takes place, the reality of one time shifts subtly, but in an observable way, which often means that only the most observant of us will take note.  A time shift could be something as simple as having a yellow shirt one day, only to find that it is red the next, or maybe you walk along the same street each day only to find it no longer exists the next, or it could be something much more significant like the death and life and death of Nelson Mandela.

http://forteanfolly.com/2013/05/23/time-shifts-and-the-mandela-effect/

So far, I don’t have any good explanations for the detailed, rich, credible memories people report in connection with the death of Nelson Mandela, Billy Graham, and others.  Nevertheless, when your memory of a celebrity’s death doesn’t match the timeline you’re in, it’s important to double-check the premature obituaries list, just in case.
Wikipedia lists the following explanations for premature obits:
    Accidental publication: accidental release of a pre-written obituary, usually on a news web site, as a result of technical or human error. The most egregious example was when, in 2003, CNN accidentally released draft obituaries for seven major world figures.
     Brush with death: when the subject unexpectedly survives a serious illness or accident which made them appear to be dead or certain to die.
    Fraud victim: many people from Uttar Pradesh, India have been registered dead by officials who are bribed by relatives who want to steal the victim’s land. The ensuing legal disputes often continue for many years, with victims growing elderly and sometimes dying in reality before they are resolved.
    Hoax: when a death is falsely reported, as a prank.
    Impostor: when an ordinary person who for years has passed himself off to family and friends as a retired minor celebrity dies, it can prompt an erroneous obituary for the real (but still-living) celebrity.
    Misidentified body: when a corpse is misidentified as someone else, often someone who was involved in the same incident or who happened to go missing at the same time.
    Missing in action: soldiers who go missing in war are sometimes incorrectly declared dead if no body is found. In particular, a number of Japanese soldiers thought to have died in World War II in fact survived – typically hiding in remote jungle for years or even decades, believing that the war had not ended.
    Misunderstandings: such as when a Sky News employee thought that an internal rehearsal for the future death of the Queen Mother was real.
    Name confusion: where someone with an identical or similar name has died. Usually the subject of the obituary is famous; the deceased person is not.
     Pseudocide: when the subject fakes his own death in order to evade legal, financial, or marital difficulties and start a new life.
Premature obituaries and other news reporting errors can lead to misunderstandings.  However, most of the reports I receive can’t be explained by a news error or simple misunderstanding.  The Mandela Effect goes far beyond that.

http://ttc-universal.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/premature-obituaries-and-mandela-effect.html

Outros exemplos do Efeito Mandela: http://mandelaeffect.com

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Em menor escala, isso ocorre quando não encontramos nossas chaves, apesar de certeza absoluta de tê-las deixado no lugar certo.

Os "muitos mundos" se divergem, mas depois algumas vezes convergem, daí surgem essas inconsistências.

[NandoR]

Pensar nisto deixa-me pensativo!

[Reginaldo brasileiro]

Isto possui uma explicação bem simples . É apenas uma demonstração do poder da hiperrealidade .

[Gigaview]

Isto possui uma explicação bem simples . É apenas uma demonstração do poder da hiperrealidade .

Você tirou as palavras da minha boca da ponta dos meus dedos. A hiperrealidade é muito mais do que super hiper, ela é linda.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Meu Deus. Fui ler o artigo da WP sobre "hiperrealidade". Impressionante o tipo de perda de tempo em que as pessoas se engajam, e que é levado a sério.

Examples

Disneyland

Both Umberto Eco and Jean Baudrillard refer to Disneyland as an example of hyperreality. Eco believes that Disneyland with its settings such as Main Street and full sized houses has been created to look "absolutely realistic," taking visitors' imagination to a "fantastic past."[15] This false reality creates an illusion and makes it more desirable for people to buy this reality. Disneyland works in a system that enables visitors to feel that technology and the created atmosphere "can give us more reality than nature can."[16] The fake animals such as alligators and hippopotamuses are all available to people in Disneyland and for everyone to see. The "fake nature" of Disneyland satisfies our imagination and daydream fantasies in real life. Therefore, they seem more admirable and attractive. When entering Disneyland, consumers form into lines to gain access to each attraction. Then they are ordered by people with special uniforms to follow the rules, such as where to stand or where to sit. If the consumer follows each rule correctly, they can enjoy "the real thing" and see things that are not available to them outside of Disneyland's doors.[17]

In his work Simulacra and Simulation, Baudrillard argues the "imaginary world" of Disneyland magnetizes people inside and has been presented as "imaginary" to make people believe that all its surroundings are "real". But he believes that the Los Angeles area is not real; thus it is hyperreal. Disneyland is a set of apparatuses which tries to bring imagination and fiction to what is called "real". This concerns the American values and way of life in a sense and "concealing the fact that the real is no longer real, and thus of saving the reality principle."[18]

"The Disneyland imaginary is neither true or false: it is a deterrence machine set up in order to rejuvenate in reverse the fiction of the real. Whence the debility, the infantile degeneration of this imaginary. It's meant to be an infantile world, in order to make us believe that the adults are elsewhere, in the "real" world, and to conceal the fact that real childishness is everywhere, particularly among those adults who go there to act the child in order to foster illusion of their real childishness."[19]

[Heryck Garcia]

 É bom ver mais gente falando sobre o Efeito Mandela no Brasil.

 Eu fiz um vídeo sobre as mudanças no mapa do mundo:
 Abs

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Acho que isso não tem nada a ver com "efeito Mandela", antes disso se refere apenas a imprecisão/simplificação na forma como as pessoas se lembram de coisas como mapas -- os mapas de ruas que as pessoas fizerem de cabeça também parecerão mais com mapas esquemáticos de metrô do que com mapas perfeitamente proporcionais de ruas.

[Gigaview]

Acho que tem mais a ver com o efeito "onde e quanto você estudou" do que com o efeito Mandela.

E o efeito "onde e quanto você estudou" também explica porque a matemática não funciona como deveria dentre outras coisas igualmente estranhas.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/01/what-you-get-when-30-people-draw-a-world-map-from-memory/282901/



O "real":








http://mapoftheweek.blogspot.com.br/2012/02/maps-from-memory.html

[Lorentz]

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/01/what-you-get-when-30-people-draw-a-world-map-from-memory/282901/

Achei bem preciso. Fazem um mimimi porque se esqueceram desta ou daquela ilha.

[Gigaview]

Certamente desenhado por americanos. O Japão é perfeito (Pearl Harbor Effect), México maior do que o real (anti-Hysterical Mexican Syndrome), Cuba ausente (Cuban Obsessive Compulsive Disorder).

[Gigaview]

Com a excessão do Mapa de Piri Reis que foi desenhado de uma escotilha de uma nave alienígena, todos os mapas da antiguidade parecem ser desenhados de memória.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Certamente desenhado por americanos. O Japão é perfeito (Pearl Harbor Effect), México maior do que o real (anti-Hysterical Mexican Syndrome), Cuba ausente (Cuban Obsessive Compulsive Disorder).

Não tem o sub-continente indiano (Indian call-center effect/Indians-as-Asians effect), nem as ilhas bitânicas (colony denial syndrome).

"Você sabia que uma muralha protegendo a América de criminosos vindos ilegalmente do México teria na verdade apenas um terço do tamanho que a maior parte das pessoas imagina que precisaria ter? Vote Trump."


A imagem dos desenhos mesmo, sem a mescla com a imagem real de satélite ajustada, não tem o Japão perfeito, ele deve ser apenas "textura" acidentalmente incorporada. E ainda teve pelo menos um desenho possivelmente "trapaceado", se não for de alguém meio rain-man cartográfico.

[Gigaview]

Notou no mapa antigo como os argentinos já se viam superiores aos demais?

[Buckaroo Banzai]

É o chamado at most world's second best in soccer compensation effect.