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Explicado porque homens matam mulheres
« Online: 13 de Janeiro de 2016, 07:48:27 »
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Finalmente uma explicação profunda e com garantia de autoridade religiosa... :olheira:
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Re:Explicado porque homens matam mulheres
« Resposta #1 Online: 13 de Janeiro de 2016, 08:09:36 »
Esse aí deve ter no MSN/como amigo no facebook aquele pastor ou padre daqui do Brasil, que era contrário a leis protetoras da mulher contra violência doméstica, porque estas restringem a possibilidade de serem disciplinadas.

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Re:Explicado porque homens matam mulheres
« Resposta #2 Online: 13 de Janeiro de 2016, 08:20:24 »
Isso tá mais pra ser postado no tópico de Notícias Bizarras.

A notícia em si já é meio capenga com "O arcebispo de Toledo, em Espanha, afirmou, durante um sermão numa missa, que as mulheres que morrem na sequência da violência doméstica terão culpa no crime", quando colocado dessa forma parece que já houve alguma intervenção nas formalidades penais (judiciais) pra que seja assim e agora resta colocar em prática.

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Re:Explicado porque homens matam mulheres
« Resposta #3 Online: 13 de Janeiro de 2016, 08:29:03 »
Não tenho essa interpretação. Não é incomum se falar de "ter culpa" sem ser em âmbito judicial.

Ao mesmo tempo, um pouco dessa impressão/interpretação deve ser influenciado por lusitanismos idiomáticos. Leia "terão" como "teriam".

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Re:Explicado porque homens matam mulheres
« Resposta #4 Online: 13 de Janeiro de 2016, 08:36:07 »
Concordo com a hipótese da influencia lusitânica. Se lido em "brasileiro", quando dito que as mulheres terão culpa, é como se ainda não tivessem mas passarão a ter em algum momento, o que ainda assim é diferente de penalização, mas normalmente quem tem culpa (por algo danoso a terceiros) pode/deve sofrer penas inerentes.

Ao invés de teriam, talvez seja melhor ler como "tem" mesmo.

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Re:Explicado porque homens matam mulheres
« Resposta #5 Online: 13 de Janeiro de 2016, 20:41:18 »
E, desde quando Padre entende de mulher?

O irmão de um amigo meu, virou Padre, porque era gay. :hihi:

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Re:Explicado porque homens matam mulheres
« Resposta #6 Online: 27 de Fevereiro de 2016, 08:35:44 »

In 24 hours, honour killings will have the global spotlight at the Oscars! Over 900,000 have already joined the call to end this crime -- sign now -- let's get to one million.



For marrying the man she loved, Saba’s father shot her in the head, stuffed her in a bag and dumped her in a river, and Pakistani law on "honour killings" allowed him to walk away free! But Saba survived, and her story is now an Oscar-nominated documentary. With the Oscars 24 hours away, the Pakistani Prime Minister has promised to change the law, but activists fear it won't happen without a massive surge of global pressure. Sign the petition to end this hideous law and share now before we lose this moment:


SIGN NOW

Dear friends across the world,

For marrying the man she loved, Saba’s own father shot her in the head, stuffed her in a bag, and dumped her in a river. Then he walked free because of a loophole in Pakistani law that allows men to commit so-called "honour killings". But, incredibly, Saba survived and she has created a ray of hope to finally stop these outrages! We have 24 hours days to help her.

Saba’s story is now an Oscar-nominated documentary, and it’s all over the news. In response, the Pakistani PM just promised to end these heinous crimes, and sources say he's instructed his daughter Maryam to be part of the reform process. But activists fear that the bill will only be passed if the Oscar buzz is massive and public pressure is sustained.

Let’s urgently get 1 million of us behind a reform bill before the Oscars tomorrow to ensure Saba’s story has the global spotlight, and then deliver it directly to the Prime Minister to help him push for a strong law. Sign and share with everyone, before we lose this moment: 

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/pakistan_end_honour_killing_loc_rb/?brXpnib&v=73394&cl=9563593268

Around the world a woman is killed every 90 minutes in an honour crime. Although Pakistan passed a law in 2004 against these murders, 70% of perpetrators in Pakistan walk free because of a “forgiveness” loophole in the law. If a woman is seen to bring “shame” on her family by refusing to enter an arranged marriage, looking too long at a boy, or even being raped, a man is free to kill her as long as another family member forgives him! There is a nobility in communities that value and protect their honour. But these killings are not about honour, they are about seeing women as property. And the forgiveness loophole protects that right to own and kill women and girls. 
 
A bill was tabled to eliminate this "forgiveness" clause, but it died without a powerful member of the ruling party to champion it. The Prime Minister, who has never before acted on this, has promised legal reforms to stop these crimes and involved his daughter, who is considered the heir to her father’s political party. But there will be push-back and experts say only global attention can give Saba, Maryam, and women’s rights activists across Pakistan the backing they need to change the system.

We have 24 hours to make sure the Pakistani Parliament feels the world is watching and we won’t go away until "forgiveness" for honour killings is finally removed from Pakistan’s law. Let's make sure attention to Saba’s story at the Oscars is massive, and then take our call to Pakistan. Sign and share now to get the word out everywhere: 

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/pakistan_end_honour_killing_loc_rb/?brXpnib&v=73394&cl=9563593268

We can make it happen. When teenager Malala Yousafzai was shot by the Taliban, the world was outraged. In response, nearly 1 million of us called on the Pakistani government to fulfill her dream of education for all. After our petition was delivered directly to the Pakistani President, he launched a stipend programme for 3 million children. This is what happens when we come together! Let’s stand with the brave women of Pakistan now to help them create laws that protect them, cultures that defend their dignity, and communities that support their right to choose their own destinies.   

With hope and determination,

Nell, Alaphia, Ari, Dalia, Ricken, Luis, Ben and the rest of the Avaaz team

MORE INFORMATION:

Human rights group reports rise in 'honour killings' in Pakistan (UPI)
http://www.upi.com/UPI-Next/2015/06/25/Human-rights-group-reports-rise-in-honor-killings-in-Pakistan/51429857038598/

Her father shot her in the head as an 'honour' killing (New York Times)
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/opinion/sunday/her-father-shot-her-in-the-head-as-an-honor-killing.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.com/

Crime and punishment in Pakistan (Vice News)
https://news.vice.com/video/crime-and-punishment-in-pakistan-extra-scene-from-the-kohistan-story-killing-for-honor

Pakistan PM Nawaz Sharif terms honour killing a 'stain on country' (NDTV)
http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pakistan-pm-nawaz-sharif-terms-honour-killing-a-stain-on-country-1277658

PM Nawaz Sharif vows to eradicate honour killings after Oscar nod (The Express Tribune)
http://tribune.com.pk/story/1027967/pm-nawaz-vows-to-eradicate-honour-killings-after-oscar-nod/

Senate unanimously passes 3 rights bills (The Nation)
http://nation.com.pk/national/03-Mar-2015/senate-unanimously-passes-3-rights-bills

The case of Saba Qaiser and the film-maker determined to put an end to 'honour' killings (Guardian)
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/feb/14/sharmeen-obaid-chinoy-interview-saba-qaiser-honour-killing-documentary-girl-river-oscar-nomination



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