Tópico: Uma Crise de Fé: Por um Ex-criacionista

[Südenbauer]

A Crisis of Faith: An Ex-Creationist Speaks

Subject:    I am an ex YEC - A crisis in faith. Warning: VERY LONG

Ler aqui:

http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/postmonth/oct03.html


 

[Marcelo Terra]

Realmente o texto é imenso, e desestimulante já que começa contando em um resumo bastante extenso a vida do narrador. Apesar de ainda não ter lido o texto todo, na verdade nem a metade dele, tem um trecho que achei interessante destacar para os que não irão lê-lo na íntegra. Vale a pena ler esse destaque:

I became fully versed in YEC teachings, and found myself laughing and cursing at the Discovery channel. What idiots! Billions of years, monkeys to man, what a joke. Satan was in full control of our country and most of our churches.

I then found the Talk Origins newsgroup. I read every single post, and I couldn't believe how evil the people were. There was a new guy, Ed Conrad, and he had PROOF that evolution was wrong. And another guy that lived near Ed Conrad, Karl Crawford; he more than proved that a woodpecker's tongue and brain casing couldn't have evolved. And he had theories about Noah's Ark, and how it was 100% possible. And there were several more people that more than proved YEC to be true, they echoed the very things I had read. I began to feel a superior arrogance towards the people that went against them.

I then started to notice posts by Andrew MacRae. Even though he felt that Ed Conrad was wrong, he went out of his way to help him. I watched those threads for months and I don't remember what it was that Andrew said but I realized that I really knew nothing about science other than what I read in the YEC books that I bought, and the websites I found (I gave a couple of YEC presentations too!!). So I started to read again. First I read almost the entire Talk Origins FAQ. I took the advice of several people in T.O. and I opened real books in the library. Ed Conrad found coal fossils and there were threads about the Grand Canyon so I started to read everything I could about geology. There were construction crews blasting away parts of the mountain here to finish route 287, so I went there after they left for the day and examined the rocks and studied the layers in the sides of the mountain that they cut away. I came across a small pond that was drained and I was able to see and count the varves. All the things that I was reading about came to life in my hands. I talked to a couple of well known scientists in my area that took the time to show me fossils and explain many things to me. After several months of reading everything I could get my hands on I broadened my reading to include different aspects of science including human biology. It didn't take long at all to realize that the YECs were wrong, and I was wrong. What's even worse is that the idea of a young earth was proven wrong many years before I was born.

[Marcelo Terra]

Como puderam ver até a citação é extensa.

Em um trecho antes do citado no post anterior o narrador fala de sua crise de fé, que apesar de não tratar de evolução também é um texto interessante e achei que vale a pena citá-lo:

[...]so I started to study my religion. I started by reading the NIV Bible cover to cover. Although shocked by what I read I started to read the King James Version. During this time I found myself squirming in the pew during the sermons, because most of them clearly went against the implied meanings I got when I read the Bible.
Talking with many of the people in the church I came to realize that each and every one of them believe something different! No two people believed the same thing.

My faith was in crisis to say the least. No one could answer any of my questions, and the Bible concordances skipped over the hard parts. Bible studies at church were all fluff and made matters worse. The minister avoided me like the plague

[Buckaroo Banzai]

não li o link ainda ..... em algum momento ele dá uma "solução", uma "volta por cima", de como ele deixou de ver o abalo na fé como um problema, um final positivo?

[Marcelo Terra]

Danniel, ele afirma ter sentido "uma paz" ao se descobrir, finalmente, agnóstico (citação: "A few months later I finally admitted to myself that I was an agnostic. I felt a strange inner peace.") mas estou lendo aos pedaços e ainda falta muito pra ler, não achei esse "sentimento" tão relevante no relato. É apenas um testemunho tão válido quanto ao de quem se sente em paz quando se torna cristão ou kardecista.

[Marcelo Terra]

Mais umas citações:

[...] I finally admitted to myself that I was an agnostic. [...] I don't feel that being an agnostic is a superior position to take; I view it more as a default position.

There is no conflict between religion and science, and the church in theory accepts evolution as fact. The problem is that the church knows that each and every person believes something different, and they don't want to cause any conflict which would in turn affect the collection plate so science is basically ignored. But they are creating a huge problem for the future because it takes a lot more effort to correct a wrong teaching than it does to teach the facts to begin with.